Woodwork Post

"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
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> The tractor tires were filled mostly with water to increase weight. We
> just topped them off with air. What was really hard was pouring water
> into that little hole....... Just kidding. We had a special attachment
> for the hose for this purpose. :)

The old timers would also refill a tire with propane when they were low.
Having worked in tire stores in my early years we were always very cautious
to question a farmer about what he used to refil all of his tires when they
went low.

100 ft lbs of torque? That's more than my Harley. That would rip your arm
off. 100 inch pounds is more likely.

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> Went to HD to pick up some sandpaper the other day to work on the
> kitchen remodel and cab refinish I am doing. The Milwaukee rep was
> there, and he told me that HD was going to start carrying a pretty
> full line of Milwaukee at some stores, and Hilti at others.
>
> He showed asked me if I had seen the new little Milwaukee 12v Li drill/
> driver. I immediately chuckled, thinking of the little Fisher/Price
> see through drill I bought my nephew when he was 5.
>
> He was adamant. These are real tools, he proclaimed. In my head, I
> was still seeing the red plastic drill bit rotating as powered by two
> double a batteries.
>
> He plucked the MW 12v off the shelf. It was small. It had only 100
> lbs of torque. (Again with the Fisher/Price image...) He let me try
> it and I was pleasantly surprised at the power. It will honestly
> drive a 3" * into soft wood without a pilot. He claimed it was
> sold as being capable of driving 130 or so without a charge, but his
> own personal experience put it at about 80+. Impressive. It was
> something like $159, so I figured for someone it might be a good deal.
>
> Seeing I wasn't buying, he asked if I had ever tried the Ridgid 12V Li
> drill. I didn't even know they made one, and didn't care. Another
> demo. Same driving capacity claimed, but with 120 lbs of torque, and
> an LED headlight on it. It felt exactly like the MW in my hand.
> Nice, but I am not a tool collector. Even at $129, I didn't bite.
>
> But... they have a promo on now. For $129, you get TWO drills, two
> batteries, the charger and a softside case. I bit. I often set up
> two drill when working to do a line of repetition like one drill to
> drill holes, one to drive.
>
> Here's the skinny:
>
> You get two batteries that charge one at a time in 30 minutes. There
> is no memory; they discharge each time they charge.
>
> This has a nice, heavy duty chuck on it that doesn't require hex ended
> bits and drivers to work. All your bits will work as normal.
>
> The drills AND batteries are covered in the lifetime warranty. If one
> drill goes down and hits the warranty slow roll, you still have the
> other to work with.
>
> I am working on a kitchen refurb, one in which I am completely
> refinishing the cabinets inside and out. When I do this, I remove all
> hardware from doors, drawers and stiles, fill the holes, and dry fit
> all the components. Then I drill new holes as needed, fit the
> component hardware and component to my liking, and remove them once
> more.
>
> Here's what I have so far.
>
> The little drill has a bunch of power. Not my Makita cordless hammer
> drill power, but it's 1/3 the size. I was really surprised at how
> much power those little batteries will transmit to the motor.
>
> In 30 year old >hard< white oak, I drilled 238 holes 1/8" (diameter) X
> 5/8" deep, drove about 175 #6 screws, and changed bits about 45
> times. I keep the same drill (testing the actual use and battery
> time) and started with a full, fresh charge. All the the holes were
> drilled, screws driven, etc. on just one charge.
>
> The battery was recharged in 25 minutes.
>
> I thought the LED light was a silly joke. It is until you get the bit
> about 2" out of the chuck, and then it actually shines on the tip of
> the drill bit and material. This was really handy inside the base
> units when pulling the drawer hardware.
>
> The batteries are in the handle, so it makes the drill a bit chunky in
> the hand, but not uncomfortable.
>
> The trigger has a really short throw, so it is a bit twitchy compared
> to my bigger drills. It does speed increases and decreases accurately
> though, with no jumping around in speed.
>
> I like the fact it uses all my bits. Even in the small bits, the
> chucks held tightly. On larger bits (I had to drill out a couple of
> screws completely using a 3/8" bit) it held it easily as well.
>
> The compact size it really, really, easy to get used to. It slipped
> into the corners, around braces, and into my tool bags without any
> problems. This is nice.
>
> The housing has rubber bumpers around the case at strategic drop
> points. This is a good idea as all the tools take a tumble now and
> then, but the guys that design them never seem to take that into
> consideration.
>
> All in all, I think HD has a winner with this one. It actually seems
> to do what it says it will, and more. And two for one, too. What a
> pleasant surprise from the HD guys. I will be reattaching all doors,
> hardware and drawer slides and hardware in the next few days. Rest
> assured I will scream like a mashed cat if anything goes wrong.
>
> Robert

"Leon" wrote
>
> "Lee Michaels" wrote in message
> news:001037c9$0$4008$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>> The tractor tires were filled mostly with water to increase weight. We
>> just topped them off with air. What was really hard was pouring water
>> into that little hole....... Just kidding. We had a special attachment
>> for the hose for this purpose. :)
>
> The old timers would also refill a tire with propane when they were low.
> Having worked in tire stores in my early years we were always very
> cautious to question a farmer about what he used to refil all of his tires
> when they went low.
>
I trust that you followed the no smoking rules when working with those
tires.

"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
> I remember years ago, bringing a old fashioned manual tire pump out to
pump
> up a couple car tires that were underinflated.

Now *that* conjures up some memories. Some 35 years ago, I had a job
delivering flowers in a company supplied car. Naturally, all the cars in the
fleet were wrecks. Anyway, 3-4 times a week, I'd get a flat tire because all
the tires were bald. I'd get out my trusty tire pump, inflate the tire
enough so I could see where to insert a rubber plug doused in rubber cement
and then inflate the tire up to proper pressure. It must have looked
ridiculous to people passing by seeing some idiot at the side of the road
frantically pumping up one of his car tires.

"CW" wrote in message
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> 100 ft lbs of torque? That's more than my Harley.

Only in your wettest of dreams. ;)

> That would rip your arm
> off. 100 inch pounds is more likely.

He left that ambiguous. Inch pounds would be spec for the Milwaukee.

"MikeWhy" wrote in message
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> "CW" wrote in message
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>> 100 ft lbs of torque? That's more than my Harley.
>
> Only in your wettest of dreams. ;)

Oh. "More than". I initially read it as "more like". :D

"Lee Michaels" wrote in message
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>
> "Leon" wrote
>>
>> "Lee Michaels" wrote in message
>> news:001037c9$0$4008$c3e8da3@news.astraweb.com...
>>> The tractor tires were filled mostly with water to increase weight. We
>>> just topped them off with air. What was really hard was pouring water
>>> into that little hole....... Just kidding. We had a special attachment
>>> for the hose for this purpose. :)
>>
>> The old timers would also refill a tire with propane when they were low.
>> Having worked in tire stores in my early years we were always very
>> cautious to question a farmer about what he used to refil all of his
>> tires when they went low.
>>
> I trust that you followed the no smoking rules when working with those
> tires.

Not being a smoker, not a problem, either way we tried to let the gas out
out side.

"CW" wrote in message
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> 100 ft lbs of torque? That's more than my Harley. That would rip your arm
> off. 100 inch pounds is more likely.


100 ft lbs of torque on am impact is nothing to handle. Most tire stores
use 1/2" drive impacts that are capable of 175-150 ft lbs of torque. Your
Harley has a torque that is constant as opposed to that of an impact.

Lee Michaels wrote:
> I grew
> up on the farm where everything from tractor tires to anything else on
> wheels were pumped up by hand. I guess that isn't so common anymore.
>


We still sell at least 10-15 pumps a week at the bicycle shop.

Of course, CO2 has taken over for on-road or on-trail flat fixes...

"Leon" wrote in
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>
> "Lee Michaels" wrote in message
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>>
>> "Leon" wrote
>>> The old timers would also refill a tire with propane when they were
>>> low. Having worked in tire stores in my early years we were always
>>> very cautious to question a farmer about what he used to refil all
>>> of his tires when they went low.
>>>
>> I trust that you followed the no smoking rules when working with
>> those tires.
>
> Not being a smoker, not a problem, either way we tried to let the gas
> out out side.
>
>
>

There's still signs in modern shops today reminding workers not to smoke
when working on tires. It seems some of the fix-a-flat stuff uses
flammable material (probably butante) to inflate the tire.

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