Woodwork Post

>> You just * it down to the bench that the grinder is on.
>> In the case of that particular HF grinder with the slow-down worm gear,
>> you would mount the grinder sideways so the wet wheel is perpendicular
>> to the front of the bench.
>
> Thank You. The pictures shows it being used on long lathe chisels. My
> question is since the wheel on this model sits higher than normal
> grinders do you have to elevate the jig in order to clear the water
> trough? Can you use this jig to sharpen short bench chisels? My
> grinder is packed away. I could be mistaken but I thought the
> direction of rotation was wrong for using the end of the grinder that
> is easily accessible?


Actually, I elevated the grinder to fit the Wolverine jig under the
center of the wheel. The wheel spins downward on the accessible end.

To be honest, I haven't used it with the water trough. It's a slow
turning wheel (only 160rpm, 180 on newer ones) and I have had any heat
issues. I usually hone my gouges after sharpening, with a wet (for
slurry) piece of 320-400 rolled into a curve.

As for the water trough, I think you could mount the grinder even higher
to clear trough and still be fine. Since we're talking about a round
wheel, you would just slide the jig in or out the get the same angle, to
make up for higher or lower, right?

For what it worth, I also freehand flat chisels and such on the flat
side of the wheel.

I haven't gotten real anal about sharpening, yet, and I'm not an expert
on the theory by any means. But I got pretty sharp for a long time
freehanding everything on a fast grinder and Arkansas Stones. When I
went to the Wolverine jig and the HF slow wheel, it was like using brand
new turning tools every time.


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BTW, here's the reason I bought the thing in the first place:

http://www.mikedrums.com/sandertable.mov


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Got it. Got the new insert on e-bay for $20. A hunk of miter track and
I'll be all set. Looked at the Tormek clone, but they wanted $105 for
it at my store. Hasn't been on sale for a couple of months, according
to the clerk.

-MIKE- wrote:
>>>
>>>
>> Thanks, Mike. I'm off to the local HF to see if they have one in stock.
>
>
> Then you won't see this until you get back. :-)
>
> Check under the display shelves. My store didn't have them anywhere in
> sight. It was under the display for those horrible little tile saws and
> whatnot.
>
> Either way, buy it and check it out. They have a very liberal return
> policy. Besides...if you do return it, the next guy who looks at it will
> be thankful that someone who's actually used a tool before, had put it
> together. :-)
>
>

TD Driver wrote:
> Got it. Got the new insert on e-bay for $20. A hunk of miter track
> and I'll be all set. Looked at the Tormek clone, but they wanted
> $105 for it at my store. Hasn't been on sale for a couple of
> months,
> according to the clerk.

You need a coupon, which, unfortunately, expired on the 10th. There
should be another one along eventually--they seem to have a coupon for
it fairly often.

Note that Harbor Freight has two Web
sites--http://www.harborfreight.com for direct ordering and
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/ for the stores. The second site has
an "Extra coupon savings" button that gets you to the current coupons
(I'm not giving a direct link because it changes every week).

> -MIKE- wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Thanks, Mike. I'm off to the local HF to see if they have one in
>>> stock.
>>
>>
>> Then you won't see this until you get back. :-)
>>
>> Check under the display shelves. My store didn't have them anywhere
>> in sight. It was under the display for those horrible little tile
>> saws and whatnot.
>>
>> Either way, buy it and check it out. They have a very liberal
>> return
>> policy. Besides...if you do return it, the next guy who looks at it
>> will be thankful that someone who's actually used a tool before,
>> had
>> put it together. :-)

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Ray writes:

> Thank You. The pictures shows it being used on long lathe chisels. My
> question is since the wheel on this model sits higher than normal
> grinders do you have to elevate the jig in order to clear the water
> trough? Can you use this jig to sharpen short bench chisels? My
> grinder is packed away. I could be mistaken but I thought the
> direction of rotation was wrong for using the end of the grinder that
> is easily accessible?

For short bench chisels, you use the Tormek with the bar in the
horizonal position, so the direction is away from the edge.
The water trough is not in the way.

For all the reported "issues" with HFT, I find them well worth having
available.

I bought a 15GA finish nailer with a 15% off coupon several weeks ago
only to find LOWES offering the Hitachi for 30 bucks less last week
(prettier, lighter, and better features I thought). I had also
purchased an air file on closeout for about ten bucks that leaked air
and needed to be returned. So I bought the Hitachi (by that time they
were down to $44! and took the HFT nailer and Air file and a 10"
carbide saw blade and a clamp to the HFT in Charlotte yesterday.

No problems what so ever. Full credit for the nail gun on my Visa,
swapped me out a new air file (this one with a box and a set of three
files), swapped out the slippery clamp for a much nicer version they
now carry and the saw blade as well. The new air file works fine and
the three free files doesn't hurt a bit. And, I effectively got a $12
bonus credit as well. I also got a $5 off coupon at the bottom of my
receipt!

If they stand by their stuff like this, why not try and buy and return
if not satisfied?

Next time I have $15 off coupon, I may check this wet/dry grinder
out. Liked the posts and all the links folks added - most hepfull, you
betcha

-MIKE- wrote:

> BTW, here's the reason I bought the thing in the first place:
>
> http://www.mikedrums.com/sandertable.mov

I once heard a story from a guy who learned the hard way not to operate
power tools while standing on a concrete floor with bare feet, apparently it
was a shocking experience.

DGDevin wrote:
> -MIKE- wrote:
>
>> BTW, here's the reason I bought the thing in the first place:
>>
>> http://www.mikedrums.com/sandertable.mov
>
> I once heard a story from a guy who learned the hard way not to operate
> power tools while standing on a concrete floor with bare feet, apparently it
> was a shocking experience.
>

I figured I'd catch flack for splinters or dropping stuff on my feet. :-)

But electrical shock? Really?
How old was the wiring in that guy's house and did it have a ground?

If he's getting shocked while operating power tools.... he needs some
new tools, not shoes.


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Anyone else's HF 95236, wetstone grinder arrive missing one of the two
bushings (http://www.harborfreight.com/manuals/95000-95999/95236.pdf part
number 11, clamp?) from the chisel/plane iron jig ? This results in the jig
being a very sloppy fit on the 'tool support' rod. I'd read several
comments about "poor quality" of the HF jigs and wonder if this was the
cause. Otherwise, I thought that the overall fabrication quality of grinder
and jigs looks pretty good.

I also noted that the user manual makes no mention of the accessory jigs
shown on the packaging and, notably, no mention of the grinding wheel 'stone
grader' which is necessary to condition the wheel surface for finish
grinding prior to honing on the leather wheel. I thought that was the
unique feature of the Tormek-type wet grinders.

David Merrill

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On Nov 12, 7:46 pm, "J. Clarke" wrote:

> I put some pictures of of it in operation and of the results
athttp://www.flickr.com/photos/39383723@N00/sets/72157608992163168/.

Nice review, John. Thanks for taking the time to take the pics and
post them.

I have wondered about that machine, but never had nerve/dough/interest/
need all intersect at the the same time.

I have heard a lot of buzz about that sharpener, but no one really
wants to own up much to proudly using a Harbor Freight item to do
anything.

Like you, I am thinking "for $67, how bad could it be?" If it's not
bad at all, sounds like a winner to me. Even the "cheap" Tormek is
now $350 - $360 or so at Woodcraft these days. And I but
don't but I do believe I had heard from a WC employee that the
Tormek accessories do work this machine, as well as some of the Jet
stuff from their slow speed sharpener.

Did it come with any polishing compound? And just as a note of
interest, can you tell where the actual grinding wheel was made?

Robert

I forgot to mention that there is another 40 percent off in-store coupon,
good thru 11-24-2008, at
http://www.harborfreightusa.com/html/wkend1124/usa_cpnsave.html (scroll way
down).

The local Harbor Freight store didn't stock any of the accessory items so
these would apparently need to be ordered online from HF (or use Tormek, Jet
or ? jigs if indeed they fit).

Stone grader and jigs
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95330

'Rough' chisel jig:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95333

'Curved' chisel jig:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95332

Lathe chisel jig:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=95329

Scissor jig:
http://www.harborfreight.com/cpi/ctaf/Displayitem.taf?itemnumber=953321

David Merrill


"David Merrill" wrote in message
news:yXyVk.389510$TT4.326114@attbi_s22...
> Anyone else's HF 95236, wetstone grinder arrive missing one of the two
> bushings (http://www.harborfreight.com/manuals/95000-95999/95236.pdf part
> number 11, clamp?) from the chisel/plane iron jig ? This results in the
jig
> being a very sloppy fit on the 'tool support' rod. I'd read several
> comments about "poor quality" of the HF jigs and wonder if this was the
> cause. Otherwise, I thought that the overall fabrication quality of
grinder
> and jigs looks pretty good.
>
> I also noted that the user manual makes no mention of the accessory jigs
> shown on the packaging and, notably, no mention of the grinding wheel
'stone
> grader' which is necessary to condition the wheel surface for finish
> grinding prior to honing on the leather wheel. I thought that was the
> unique feature of the Tormek-type wet grinders.
>
> David Merrill
>